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#1 Sator

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 11:48 PM

I have had an enquiry from a tailor about a pattern for "trew trousers". Now, as far as I can discern "trews" are just an old fashioned word for trousers. The term is used today, from what I can see on Google, as term for trousers for Highland wear. The pattern seems no different at quick glance from ordinary trousers. There are also military trews with a stripe down the side, which are perhaps a Highland version of the military overalls in this thread:

http://www.cutterand...p?showtopic=461

I have looked up a few books on trouser cutting and cannot find anything specific on "trews".

Does anyone out there know something about the subject?

#2 J. Maclochlainn

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 12:40 AM

I does! :)

There are two types of trews, one with no side-seam and one with a straight cut down the side-seam,they can be cut a little closed. This is so the tartan can wrap around the leg uninterrupted
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 12:52 AM

Have you got a source for a printed pattern?

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 01:06 AM

This is all I can locate now, I can't find the more modern draft I have from the 40's/ 50's but I'll looks for it when I got some time. This one is Edwardian. Edit: odd, is should be A4 sized and print ready =/

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Edited by J. Maclochlainn, 16 April 2010 - 01:07 AM.

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 01:08 AM

And yes they are supposed to rise that high, remember they are supposed to be worn with a Scots Doublet which is designed for wearing with a kilt, which has a high rise.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 01:13 AM

:im Not Worthy: :im Not Worthy: :im Not Worthy:

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 01:15 AM

Here is another without side seam, I know it's an older draught (1898 C.P.G.) but I have seen MODERN "civilian" trews cut along the same lines, very nice effect when worked up properly.

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If he is a tailor serving a customer who needs trews for his reg't then have him contact the M.O.D. and see if they still have "sealed" patterns. They are the official pattern for the M.O.D.

Edited by J. Maclochlainn, 16 April 2010 - 01:40 AM.

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 03:14 AM

Die Gesammte Fachwissenschaft des Kleidermachers, Band III, System Fortschritt, III. Auflage, Verlag Europaeische Modenzeitung (Klemm&Weiss), Dresden 1901

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 03:58 AM

DZ, no offence, but what you wrote means nothing, except to maybe three people on this forum. Could you please scan and post.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 09:02 AM

I know but Sator probably has the books. :Party:
The pictures have the same spirit like your ones. My scanner not working right now.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 10:06 AM

DZ, no offence, but what you wrote means nothing, except to maybe three people on this forum. Could you please scan and post.


In this case, it is OK because it is a reference. It is standard practice not to translate references unless an English translation has been published. It would be the same if it were an academic journal reference.

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 11:06 PM

I wonder what use Germans have for Scotch trews. :Thinking:
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#13 J. Maclochlainn

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 11:20 PM

I thought the same thing lol

I would still like to see it even if not translated.
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Posted 20 April 2010 - 01:57 AM

I believe the closest German translation to be "Lederhosen".

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 02:04 AM

:Confused: Not sure I make the connection between wool tartan trousers without a side seam and leather shorts that make you want to drink beer and yodel :Big Grin:
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Posted 20 April 2010 - 02:05 AM

Well, Trachthosen (Lederhosen) are national dress - like Scottish tartan trews.

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 07:18 AM

Well why didn't you say sooo :p

I've actually always viewed trews as more a military garment despite the historical use of them as warn by higher ranking members of the clans that could afford a horse, because believe you me, you don't want to ride a horse with a kilt on :spiteful:
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Posted 20 April 2010 - 12:22 PM

I would sooner wear Lederhosen than ride "bareback" on a horse ie in a kilt.




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