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#1 Testudo_Aubreii

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 10:38 AM

Several of the world's top politicians are now women who wear tailored clothes. What do we make of the fit?

 

Theresa May:

 

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#2 Testudo_Aubreii

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 10:40 AM

More Theresa:

 

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Hillary:

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 10:43 AM

More Hillary:

 

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Christine Lagarde of the International Monetary Fund:

 

(Here with Angela Merkel)

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 10:47 AM

More Christine:

 

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Posted 29 July 2016 - 11:03 AM

And here is the obvious comparison. Maggie!

 

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 02:50 AM

This is interesting and coincides with a discussion on another forum. It also blends with a question I came here to post separately. Womens' sleeve length. I will still ost that on another thread.

I think part of the discussion on this thread is that Hillary's wardrobe is for the most part - not bespoke. Therefore, given her particular type of aging physique (short-wasted, narrow-shouldered, pear) it can be almost impossible to fit her with alterations on RTW. The woman is supposedly worth $45 million. Hire a tailor, bespoke dressmaker Hillary. While some people will make an issue of the cost of bespoke wear, most will begin to not notice her clothing as much - which is what she seems to be trying to achieve. Her poorly fitting shoulders and sleeves contribute to the attention paid to what she wears.

Employ a tailor Hillary - they all need the work. Buy fewer, higher quality garments and rotate them. Rejuvenate the womens RTW industry - obliterate the concept of "disposible clothing". Help our landfills. I have the intelligence to understand the concept of "false modesty". I seriously doubt I'm the only voter that does. The fact she has $45mil and therefore can afford bespoke does not bother me. Our President is our royalty and the position dictates appropriate garb. (The fact she has amassed a $45mil fortune while in public service should be an issue - on another forum.)

The other issue clearly pictured above, is how well the garments retain their sillouette with arms raised. Arm raising is obviously an important activity for political office (I am SERIOUSLY NOT being snarky here -its an ACTUAL big deal and mandatory activity - just look at the photos!) You'll notice Ms Thatcher's garments perform nicely - Hillary's? - not so much.

I think for anyone in the public eye, functioning on an international platform, what they wear should fit as well as possible in order to prevent the clothing from being distracting. Cameras are simply very unforgiving.

My BIL travels extensively for his job, both nationally and internationally. I've been after him for years to get new suits (no thrift stores would offer his for sale). So he went to JCPenny, both suits are 100% polyester and I suspect - machine washable! Touching them to remove the tags reminded me of wrapping food in plastic film......some garments should simply not exist. Eeewwww!

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 08:16 AM

Think people are coming back to custom clothing, but, nowadays, there is a lack of those who can actually make the quality stuff. Mr. Hosteck disliked seeing Bill Gates in m2m. It used to be, men climbing the ladder, as soon as they could, were at real tailors having their clothes made. To see the wealthiest man on earth wearing shoddy clothing is an embarrassment.

Hillary is a democrat, so, supposedly, not supposed to wear such fine clothes. Politics is goofy.

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 09:51 PM

I think all politician's suits should have gusseted sleeves, like we do for actors and dancers! :)
They do indeed spend a lot of time waving.

Edited by Terri, 30 July 2016 - 09:51 PM.

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 02:27 AM

maybe it would be better to give some of them deep deep armholes!!:-)
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Posted 31 July 2016 - 03:29 AM

Deep deep armholes? So when they lift their arms we get a break from seeing their heads? Remember this guy bought a coat with deep armholes. When he lift his arms to put his hands on the steering wheel to drive the whole coat came up so high he couldn't see to drive. He got out of the car and took his coat off. Then, got in and drove away.

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 03:50 AM

There's another photo of Hillary online in the same jacket that is pictured above - it actually looks like it is trying to strangle her.

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 05:52 AM

That's it, Gregor!
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Maybe their gestures would then be a bit more running with reality.

Edited by posaune, 31 July 2016 - 05:52 AM.

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#13 Schneiderfrei

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 11:02 AM

I have a patient who is an orchestral conductor.  His jackets are specially tailored for arm waving. :)

 

And . . . that was very clever posaune, I just read down a bit.  :hyper:


Edited by Schneiderfrei, 31 July 2016 - 11:04 AM.

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 11:05 AM

It looks from the photos that Thatcher at least had a better armhole.


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Posted 31 July 2016 - 07:35 PM

not in this horrible grey suit. Must be at the beginning of her career - no bespoke tailor's work.
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Posted 31 July 2016 - 11:49 PM

I nearly wrote first, that "at least she was more aware of the limitations of her garment." after I saw the grey jacket.  but then I noticed that the other images show her lifting her arm up high without too much trouble so I changed my post.  So, yes I saw that the grey suit is not good.  I expect you are quite right about the early era of the grey jacket.


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Posted 10 August 2016 - 07:11 AM

Thanks for the replies, folks. So here are my guesses as to which garments are ready-mades and which MTM or bespoke.

 

Theresa May:  All coats readymade.

Hillary Clinton:  All coats MTM or bespoke (look at the armholes).

Christine Lagarde:  1 and 4 readymade, 2 and 3 MTM or bespoke

Margaret Thatcher: 1 and 2 bespoke, 3 readymade or so-so MTM.

 

What's your guess?



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Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:20 AM

I don't agree that Clinton's are bespoke.  There is too much shoulder pushing upward on the arm wave.


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